THINK?  Could "Chance" create a  box with no chance of a creator?
The  megalith culture is written in stone and can't be hidden  it destroys the basic concept of Evolution, 

Can matter be created out of helium and hydrogen with heat and pressure in cold empty space?
 Can gravity pull elements together without mass?  While 90 to 99% of space is empty accept for dark matter?  A bio genesis – does life come from inorganic matter?
    Is the earth more fruitful than in the past?  Today 35% of earths land mass is desert including Antarctica with frozen forests under a mile and a half deep of ice even though there is little participation? at one time deserts were fruitful.

    Species they speculate between 1 and 4 billion species and fifty million survive.
 Some say that 75% to 85% of the flora and fauna are extinct.  Are animals getting larger?  Mammals to day are 15% to 40% smaller than their fossil ancestors.

We are smarter than Neolith people of 5 to 7 thousand years ago.  Before them were very advanced Megalith people, cranial capacity of 2500cc average human brain now is 1500cc) all we know are their magnificent stone pyramids and abandoned stone temples world wide .  They accomplished things impossible for us today.  Megaliths in Peru!!! Some wonder if they were space aliens.  There is little information about them accept for their sensational stone temples and astronomically designed observatories and calendars.  The megaliths blow apart evolution's premise of slowly evolving mankind and that all nature had a primitive past. 

A theory just as logical it includes a supernatural Spiritual Creator the Greeks called LOGOS the unseen unknowable creator /coordinator of all things.
 This makes more sense to me than blind chance which I haven't had much luck with lately.  
"Chance" for evolutionists is a super intelligent conceptual entity.  No wonder they reject intelligent design because they already have one; called "Chance."

"Archaeological remains discovered 36 meters (120 feet) underwater in the Gulf of Cambay off the western coast of India could be over 9,000 years old. The city - is 5 miles long and 2 miles wide - predates known remains in the subcontinent by more than 5,000 years."

"Off the coast of Yonaguni Island by Okinawa is a large structure Over 600 feet wide and 90 feet high the edifice was initially thought to be a natural formation on its discovery, nearly 10 years ago. There are also numerous round holes carved into the rock look as though they were made to support large wooden poles. The structure is lying on the seabed,  60 to 100 feet below the surface. The last time  these areas were not covered by the ocean was approximately 8 thousand years ago.   According to Professor Kimura, a marine geologist at the University of Okinawa: "This could only have been done by a people with a high degree of technology . . .With some sort of machinery involved to create such a huge structure."
Off the shores of Alexandria, Egypt are ruins of  royal quarters.. Historians believe this site was submerged by earthquakes and tidal waves more than 1,600 years ago. The excavations concentrated on the submerged island of Antirhodus. Cleopatra is said to have had a palace there.. two statues where lifted out of the harbor. One was a priest of the goddess Isis; the other a sphinx
 Smithsonian museum policy is that no one was here before Native Americans (Indians). Many finds are hidden even the Kennewick man video was canceled and the Giant skull and skeletons in Lovelock cave in Winnemucca museum There are hundreds of reports of anomalies turned over to the Museum never to be seen again.  True or not? The Olmec's giant stone heads in Tabasco Mexico or the elongated skulls in Peru, that were projected to be 7' tall are still with us.

Using the Genesis scenario how many facts fit in contrast to evolution.  No one has seen God or the big bang ball and we don't know its origin.
Evolutionist  doubt  scripture that says light existed days before the sun or moon were created.   Big Bang theory  300,000 years of blinding light even before mater coalesced into stars.???
Give "chance" plus adequate time good things evolve.

Evolution and creation agree on the sequence. First matter, -elements then plant and animal life finally Human beings.  Creationist believe we have animal bodies yet we are spiritual /moral beings made in the image of God.    The difference-is billions of years or six days.  
Evolutionist's reject Isaiah's insight where creation is instantly restored for the millennium.
Paleolithic, Mesolithic and Neolith ages, primitive, stone age, then bronze age and iron age.

"Abel a keeper of flocks, Cain was a tiller of the ground.  Cain brought an offering to the LORD of the fruit of the ground.  Abel, brought of the firstlings of his flock and their fat portions. The LORD regarded Abel's offering; but not Cain's so  he became very angry (Gen 4:2-5) Jabal the father of those who dwell in tents and have livestock. Jubal was the father of all those who play the lyre and pipe.  Tubal-cain, the forger of all implements of bronze and iron; "(Gen 4:20-22)

In Paleoliths, Meseo and Neoliths by pass the Megaliths preceded the primitive Neolth's.  Who were these tremendously talented Megalith people?  (web photos Peru of megalith 80 ton stone structures cut from a mountain five miles away at Ollantaytambo)

The Megalith's descended from Adam and Eve and some lived 900 years.  The Megaliths lived longer were bigger taller smarter than modern man yet they have found no writing quite possibly their scrolls were destroyed in the deluge.  Noah's Megalith family needed more than primitive stone tools to build the ark?  The Megalith's believed Abel's blood sacrifice and blood shedding was their path to heaven by ripping out beating human hearts to appease the sun.  King Kamehameha made Human sacrifices  for success in combat The luakini heiau was a large sacrificial war temple dedicated to the god Kuka’ilimoku (Ku).

"The LORD saw the wickedness of man was great that every intent of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually. The LORD said, " I will blot out man whom I have created from the face of the land, from man to animals to creeping things and to birds of the sky; for I am sorry that I have made them."  But Noah found favor in the eyes of the LORD." (Gen 6:5-8)
There are many different stories of the flood what I didn't realize that there are many stories about god creating mankind which became so evil that God destroyed them??!!

Many discount the deluge yet all of the Megalith people are gone.  They say the cliff dwellers left because the weather changed the same with over a thousand Mayan temples.  They are right the weather had changed for the deluge was greater than anything imaginable.
 The earth must have been quite smooth before the deluge, Several asteroids hit at different places radically shifting the tectonic plates, igniting volcanoes on the ring of fire, destroying the protective Ice canopy, covering the pacific northwest with lava flows 30' deep with choking ash killing all life.  Great areas of the seas sunk while mountains rose, massive tidal waves swept the land burying everything in its wake freezing at the poles and wooly Mammoths in Siberia.
Crater lake erupted 7,000 years ago along with many other volcanoes covering five states with ash, entombing horses, camels, giant land sloth's   A bulldozer in Dakota sands uncovered 10 individuals four of them women 58 feel below the surface only dinosaurs are buried that deep.??  The 120 ton baalbek stone 69'x16'x13' lies deserted in Lebanon.

Chaco Canyon in N.W. New Mexico sat at the center of a thriving civilization of 4,000 people with a monumental “great houses” faced with yellow-orange sandstone. The largest great houses Pueblo Bonito had over 600 rooms  Most buildings were four-stories high  Altogether they used 200,000 coniferous trees in construction carried from mountains sixty miles away.. Settlements were socially anchored by a dense cluster of massive stone buildings in Chaco Canyon called “great houses.” Labor estimates for the construction of individual great houses exceed several hundred thousand man-hours bear testimony to an unprecedented amount of energy and organization.  Archeologist conclude that many rooms were never inhabited for there were no fires to heat.   How about a radical weather change,?   The desert can only support a few people today did it support thousands?  Sticking out of the sandstone on top of the mesas are fossilized shrimp burrows. "During the Cretaceous period, approx 60 to 80 million years ago, the Great Inland Sea covered this area."? (At 6,000 elevation??   
Today there is no trace of those people.  Mucho Mahalo  Bob

BEST  KEPT  SECRETS

Who were they?   Some say midgets (Menehunies) others say Giants;  Some say gods others demons  many say hybrids between sons of God and the daughters of men.  Could be the descendents of Cain and that is why they were so remarkable and evil.   The whole earth had a unified language until the post flood tower of Babel when languages were confused.

"A river flowed out of Eden from and became four rivers. the first is Pishon; it flows around the whole land of Havilah, there second river is Gihon;.  the third river is Tigris; it flows east of Assyria.  the fourth river is the Euphrates."  (Gen 2:10-15)  Most Rivers have a thousand sources this one had one.
"A mist used to rise from the earth and water the whole surface of the ground."   (Gen 2:6)   The whole earth was watered there were no deserts until after the deluge
God said, "Let there be an expanse in the midst of the waters, let it separate the waters from the waters."  God separated the waters which were below the expanse from the waters which were above the expanse; and it was so"   (Gen 1:6-7) this is the source of the canopy theory

God said, "Let the earth bring forth living creatures after their kind: cattle and creeping things and beasts of the earth after their kind";.  God made the beasts of the earth after their kind, cattle after their kind, and everything that creeps after its kind; and God saw that it was good.    (Gen 1:24-26)

"I have given you every plant, and every tree which has fruit yielding seed; it shall be food for you; to every beast and to every bird of the sky and to every thing that moves on the earth which has life, I have given every green plant for food";   (Gen 1:29-31) photosynthesis the "green" source of life.

"Enoch built a city.   to Enoch  Adah gave birth to Jabal; he was the father of those who dwell in tents and have livestock.  His brother's Jubal; was the father of those who play the lyre and pipe. Zillah, gave birth to Tubal-Cain, the forger of all implements of bronze and iron;"     (Gen 4:17-23)

Adam lived 930 years,  Gen 5:8-11 Seth lived 912 years, Enosh lived 905years
"The LORD saw that the wickedness of man was great, that every intent of the thoughts of his heart was evil continually.  The LORD was sorry that He had made man on the earth, and He was grieved in His heart. "I will blot out man whom I have created from the face of the land, from man to animals to creeping things and to birds of the sky; "    (Gen 6:5-7)   This period lasted for 1,650 years.

  random quotes from the web that seem to uphold the Megalith concept and the radical changes in the earth."Before the flood, the greenhouse effect atmosphere enabled biological animal life to reach huge sizes as seen in the dinosaurs. Man could grow and If you lived for 900 years the "internet" would be in your head; you wouldn't need a book-- Maybe pre-flood men and women were drastically SUPERIOR to us physically and mentally--and this is a scary thought because we knew they were exceedingly evil. That Noah was able to build his giant ship and not be stopped by these evil peers can only be explained by a function of time lulling them to mock and ignore him We know the largest megaliths existed before the flood and the smaller ones were built after the flood, indicating a reduced ability to build them. Most megaliths are religious monuments or ceremonial in function--, was built with world-wide punishment from God in mind and its purpose was to embed technological know-how that would survive to jump-start mankind's reduced capacity minds after the flood. Some suggest Enoch built the great pyramid--not the Egyptians. the sphinx is really a LION and was built by a pre-flood civilization—the Neters were not Egyptians "
"Their superior agricultural skills, their knowledge of Cosmology, and their overall grasp of the formulas of nature all indicate that the ancients not only were advanced, but they were much more so than us, thousands of years later. This means that as a race, mankind has declined from a high point over the passage of Eons.   Water ring on the Sphinx and its enclosure was formed by runoff from rain precipitation. The last time Egypt had rains like that was 8 to 11,000 years ago"
      "Observations made point out the hundreds of thousands of marine fossils, and seashells preserved in the walls of the pyramids and surrounding the base of the monuments. Sir Petrie first entered the great pyramid he was shocked to find sea salt encrustations all over the walls and coffers."

       "Geologists are hard pressed to explain why there exists a fourteen-foot layer of silt sediment around the base of the Pyramid, a layer which also contained many seashells, and the fossil of a sea cow, all of which were dated by radiocarbon methods to 11,600 B.P"
 Silt and sea shells also by Lake Titicaca in Peru
Lake Titicaca Peru –"Ancient stories of massive floods pass from generation to generation and in. "The tales differ by locale, but commonly feature either torrential rains or a hugely destructive wall of water bursting into a valley, destroying everything in its path. In many cases, the flooding is an act of retribution by displeased gods.. Recent findings indicate that at least a few of them could be based on real floods that caused destruction on an enormous scale."

        "Lower altitude terraces where corn could still grow are still at a level above Lake Titicaca. This means that the "pre-historic" peoples cultivating corn "lived" in the area "before" and "after" the numerous cataclysmic uplifts that raised the Andes. The uplifts caused the terraces where the corn "was" successfully cultivated to be raised to an altitude where the corn would not grow. As the mountains rose cataclysmically the peoples terraced their cornfields successively lower down the mountainsides. There is a stone causeway leading "out" of Lake Titicaca. It has been speculated the area used to be at sea level and the causeway led out to the Pacific ocean. The causeway now leads out of the lake to nowhere at 9000 feet altitude."

          "There are stone "ruins" more "ancient" than the stone causeway leading out of Lake Titicaca. They are buried under six feet of "sediment" on the shallow "bottom" of Lake Titicaca. The sediment contains "pre-historic"  sea shell fossils. There was not enough topsoil surrounding Lake Titicaca to have "eroded" and "covered" these "ancient" ruins with sediment."

 "Cherchen Man is a mummy discovered in the Taklamakan Desert, Xinjiang Uighur Autonomous Region, western China. “died around 1000 BC”. The mummy is described as: a 3,000 year old male, “6-foot-6-inch giant with Caucasian features”, hair that is “reddish brown flecked with grey, framing high cheekbones”, an “aquiline” “long nose, full lips and a ginger beard”, whose face is tattooed with “yellow and purple patterns”, he wears “a red twill tunic and tartan leggings"         

GO MAKE DISCIPLES

           Those that sit at Jesus feet listening but never get involved are a waste of life they need to be involved in a "peripatetic" or-"walking school" where the Lord exposes us to all of life.  

           Jesus is the Son of God confirmed by the fact is that He was dead three days and nights, came out of the tomb, tall, handsome and vigorous, never to die again. Jesus Christ our Lord was declared (to be) the Son of God with power by the resurrection from the dead, according to the Spirit of Holiness.  Romans  (1:4-5)   Jesus ranks higher than anyone else in heaven or on earth!!!  He claims "All AUTHORITY has been given to Me in heaven and on earth. Therefore Go. Matthew 28:18
            If this Man claims total authority, it must be important.  Yet we see His command as just a commission.   This is an Order from the Highest Authority in the universe.

           It begins with "GO" make disciples. Don't get airline tickets to Timbuktu.  It's more like "move it!" "Don't just sit there." Start close to home as (s)he matures moving in ever widening circles. You shall be My witnesses in 1. Jerusalem,  2. Judea  3. Samaria,  even to the 4. remotest part of the earth."  Acts 1:8  
          Start small, don't stop there - grow. "Walk in the light" don't jump, run or sprint.  Keep moving as God's light moves.  Don't jump ahead or dawdle behind.  Jesus' command seems too terrifying to even start.  One step at a time is not too hard.  Make disciples of all the nations or Ethnic groups Matt. 28:19) God is not partial He does not play favorites. 
 
          Jesus came to make disciples and poured his Life into twelve men.  His last command is to make disciples, go to all the world to every ethnic group and make disciples by immersing into (Gr. "onoma" or name) which means character and authority; of the Father Son and Holy Spirit teaching them to be absolutely obedient to everything I've taught you.  (Mat.28:18)   When people Pray "in Jesus Name" outside of his character their prayer is without His authority.

         Disciples are immersed in His Word,  "If you continue to (abide) in My word, then you are truly disciples of Mine;  and you will know the truth, and the truth will make you free."   (John 8:31-32)

         A mega church takes in a thousand new members each week, teaches the Word accurately without making disciples it is lifeless.  Only disciples can replicate new disciples, books alone can't.

         Disciples recruit disciples by having them participate in the supernatural life of Christ.  
         "Jesus summoned His twelve disciples and gave them authority over unclean spirits, to cast them out, and to heal every kind of disease and every kind of sickness.   (Matt 10:1)

        "Behold My mother and My brothers!  whoever does the will of My Father in heaven, is My brother and sister and mother."    (Matt 12:48-50)  Disciples are Christ's intimate family

         Jesus said to His disciples, "If anyone wishes to come after Me, he must deny himself, and take up his cross and follow Me.  Whoever wishes to save his life will lose it; but whoever loses his life for My sake will find it. what will it profit a man if he gains the whole world and forfeits his soul? Or what will a man give in exchange for his soul?  (Matt 16:24-25)    Free grace isn't cheap.

        When Jesus fed five thousand they became instant converts yet Jesus turned them off and turned to His twelve.  Being a disciple is more than learning doctrine or Biblical knowledge.  It is a consuming hunger to know and follow Jesus .

         Learning to walk in "The Way" gives purpose to life. God's Word is the source of wisdom and objective truth.  It gives perspective of the past, purpose for today and hope for the future.  We know where we came from, why we are here, and where we're going.  His Word gives meaning and direction to our existence.  Christ's community is unique, more concerned about persons than programs, cares more for individual needs than externals of culture, language or clothes.  We are not social animals or machines; we are the Bride of Christ, loving and compassionate.  We are the Body of Christ with spiritual gifts to help, heal, build up, strengthen and encourage.

         Isaiah defined a listening disciple  "The Lord GOD has given Me the tongue of disciples, That I may know how to sustain the weary with a word.   He awakens Me morning by morning, He awakens My ear to listen as a disciple. The Lord GOD has opened My ear;  I was not disobedient Nor did I turn back. (Isa 50:4-5)  One truth is "Jesus is God" and those that experience His love spend a life time growing as His disciple.  A disciple or student learns by the example.  What we focus on is what we become.  If we focus on God's will, joy is ours but if our time is spent on guilt, anger, and remorse, we wallow in misery.  If Jesus is our Savior just happens to be lord; our focus will be on salvation from sin and missing hell.   If our focus is Jesus as Lord and King then our concern will be being his disciple with the joy of bearing Kingdom fruit, being focused on our Fathers will and how to serve Him?  Sin hinders us  and the "unintended consequence" of sin is  we focus on our failures rather than Jesus.   Sin is less of a dilemma if Christ's grace is our focus.

        Perusing Acts and the Great Commission something seems wrong.  Disciples reproduce  converts are usually sterile  God is not in a box; He revealed His will to Moses in stone (the law)   God is revealed through Christ His graceful grace on the fleshly tablets of our hearts.  If it wasn't for Jesus showing us the Father's Nature and Character it would be pure speculation.  Conversion takes place in a moment being a disciple takes a life time. Disciples are made, not born    "You did not LEARN Christ in this way"   (Eph. 4:20) We are to LEARN "Christ"; not learn ABOUT Christ. Academic knowledge is not our quest but a constant desire to be conformed to His image (Rom. 8:29).  Learning to walk "His Way" gives purpose to life.  

        "Hold fast the confession of our hope without wavering, for He who promised is faithful;  and Let Us Consider How To Stimulate One Another To Love And Good Deeds,  not forsaking our own assembling together, as is the habit of some, but encouraging one another;"   (Heb 10:23-25)
If we stop growing spiritually our ability to disciple  stops.  A disciple hungers and thirsts after righteousness; his first priority is seeking God's Kingdom and His righteousness; in our self we have nothing to offer.  The Body of Christ consists of disciples who are unique individuals continually growing in Christ and each other with special gifts that reveal God.
Jesus answered "I am a king. For this I have been born, and for this I have come into the world,
 to  testify to the truth. Everyone who is of the truth hears My voice."   (John 18:36-38) truth trumps all else  Jesus told parables of farmers, housewives, Kings and rulers all reveal Kingdom truth. 
A disciple's job is to sift through tradition and find God's truth.  When Jesus is Lord ("Kurios" Gr.
or - absolute authority) the Holy Spirit supernaturally opens doors of service that honor our Father.
"To the Jews who believed Him, "If you continue in My word, then you are truly disciples of Mine; you will know the truth, and the truth will make you free."  (John 8:31-33)

        "If you abide in Me, and My words abide in you, ask whatever you wish, and it will be done for you.  "By this is My Father is glorified, that you bear much fruit, and prove to be My disciples.  "As the Father has loved Me, I have loved you; abide in My love.  "If you keep My commandments, you will abide in My love; just as I have kept My Father's commandments and abide in His love.  "I told you these so that My joy may be in you, and your joy may be made full."  (John 15:7-17)

        People find it difficult to enter God's kingdom.  You can't serve two masters: either you love one and hate the other.  We sing and dance and beat our drums, rejoicing in our freedom not realizing that a Kingdom disciple is total commitment.   We accept all the goodies He offers; is it possible that we don't appreciate the gift of freedom we've been given.  Some claim that if we put forth any effort it would belittle the King. How wrong can they be? Work done in humility honors the One who freed us?  We are not saved by works  because we are saved for works.

         "Some as apostles,  prophets, some as  evangelists, and others as pastor teachers, to Equip  the Saints (disciples) for The Work Of Service, to build up of the body of Christ;" (Eph 4:11-13)

        "Jesus summoned His twelve DISCIPLES and gave them authority over unclean spirits, to cast them out, and to heal every kind of disease and every kind of sickness. (Matt 10:1-2)

      Two men, the founder of "the way" and Saul the missionary who opened the good news to the Gentiles.  They both had very different backgrounds yet their ministries are nearly identical.
       Jesus came from heaven's highest to Nazareth lowest a small mongrel semi gentile town.
Saul a Hellenistic Jew who's native tongue was Greek, was well read in both Greek and Hebrew.  He was raised in Tarsus a sophisticated port city the capital of Cilicia in part of the Roman Empire..

        Jesus had a successful three year ministry in Galilee and Judea.  Paul had a successful three year ministry at Ephesus in Tyrannus Hall.  Paul learned from his failed time in Asia.  "You are aware of the fact that all who are in Asia turned away from me,"    (2 Tim 1:15)
Paul accomplished his hope of building strong disciples in Ephesus where he followed Jesus pattern.  On the other hand the Corinthian Church was a painful disappointment to Paul and Apollos. 

Jesus and Paul - totally immersed themselves in and with their disciples I was with you the whole time, serving the Lord with all humility and with tears and with trials which came upon me through the plots of the Jews."   (Acts 20:18-19)  Both faced the plots from the Jews.

        Paul exposed his disciples to  teaching both privately and publicly. "I did not shrink from declaring anything profitable teaching you publicly from house to house,  I testified… of repentance toward God and faith in our Lord Jesus Christ."   (Acts 20:21-22)

        Jesus brought the Good News of Grace of God which Paul proclaimed.   "The ministry which I received from the Lord Jesus, to testify solemnly of the Gospel Of The Grace Of God."   (Acts 20:24)
         Jesus proclaimed the Kingdom of Heaven; a present reality and a future hope "All of you, whom I went  preaching the kingdom, will no longer see my face."  (Acts 20:25) 

           To "make disciples" Jesus set a pattern and commands us to follow.  It is not happening to day as we simply sit and listen for a couple of hours, read our Bible and pray; oh except tithe?

           It seems strange that we spend our time trying to build the church when Jesus said "I say to you that you are Peter, (Petros- masculine) and upon this rock (Petras- feminine) I will build My church; and the gates of Hades will not overpower it."   (Matt 16:18-19) With very little instructions about the ecclesia or assembly where as we have lots of definitions of a disciple.  Making disciples is very time intensive and without a lot of glory where as Pastors are put on a pedestal.
Paul and Apollos spent three years trying to build the Corinthian  Church, yet it was a disaster.
 "there are quarrels among you. "  (1 Cor 1:11-12)   "The natural man does not accept the things of the Spirit of God, for they are foolishness to him; and he cannot understand them, because they are spiritually appraised.    (1 Cor 2:14)

           "I could not speak to you as to spiritual, but as to men of flesh, as to infants in Christ.  I gave you milk to drink, not solid food; for you were not yet able to receive it. Indeed, even now you are not yet able. For since there is jealousy and strife among you, are you not fleshly, "   (1 Cor3:1-4)              Do not deceive yourselves. If any one of you thinks he is wise by the standards of this age, he should become a "fool" so that he may become wise.    (1 Cor 3:18)

          It is actually reported that there is sexual immorality among you, and of a kind that does not occur even among pagans: (1 Cor 5:1)  "Do not be ignorant; our forefathers were baptized into Moses in the cloud and sea. all ate the same spiritual food and drank the same spiritual drink; Nevertheless, God was not pleased with them; their bodies were scattered over the desert. these things occurred as examples to keep us from setting our hearts on evil things as they did.    (1 Cor 10:1-7)

          Your meetings do more harm than good., I hear that when you come together as a church, there are divisions When you come together, it is not the Lord's Supper you eat, as you eat, each of you goes ahead without waiting. One remains hungry, another gets drunk.  (1 Cor 11:17-21)
         For he eats and drinks judgment to himself if he does not judge the body rightly.   (1 Cor 11:29)
 Now you are Christ's body, and individually members of it.   (1 Cor 12:27)

         "If I speak with the tongues of men and of angels, but do not have love, I have become a noisy gong or a clanging cymbal.  If I have the gift of  prophecy, and know all mysteries and all knowledge; and if I have all faith, so as to remove mountains, but do not have love, I am nothing. if I give all my possessions to feed the poor, and if I surrender my body to be burned, but do not have love, it profits me nothing."   (1 Cor 13:1-4)  the Corinthians were a profitless mess on and on it goes.
Paul's three years at Ephesus concentrated on making successful disciples that went forth.
Jesus meant for His church to be a participating Body not sit and listen pew warmer.

DEITY  and  HUMANITY OF  CHRIST  JESUS our  LORD
From February 4, 2014 2:47:51 PM HST

God's love was made known to us when the Logos emptied himself to become the Son of Man so we can become Son's of God.   John 1:11-12  -- The secret is Christ In You; for In Christ we become a new creation Col. 1:27 & 11 Cor. 5:17 the first three creations (Heb. Bara) were corrupted.
Gen. 1:1,matter  1:21.animal life  1:27 created (bara)  mankind in  the image of God.

The Son of Man sinless was crucified for our sins; how much more do we need to crucify our carnal nature and consider ourselves dead to sin.  Gal. 2:20,--Gal. 5:23 – Rom. 6:11
    Our faith is not in us but in God's loving-kindness (Heb. chessed) Grace.

No question about the deity /divinity of Christ.  He is not a sub -god or a demigod; but the creator i.e. "All things were made by Him and with out the Logos nothing came into being and the Logos became a human and we saw Him as the only begotten of the Father full of grace and truth." 
            No question that Jesus although sinless? was a mortal human being who died for our sins and in doing so became immortal, conquered death by His resurrection, so we could have eternal life.
The purpose of the Logos taking on a human form was that Mankind continually distorts the truth about God; His Character and Nature. We needed to hear "If you have seen me you have seen the Father, One who is the exact representation of His Nature."  And have a perfect representation of what mankind was meant to be, like Adam before he disobeyed?  Jesus the sinless Last Adam came to restore His Kingdom to us --the Dominion that Adam abdicated.

Jesus "became sin, for us, who knew no sin that we might be made the righteousness of God in Him."  Christ accomplished this by being born as Jesus a man without any prestige credentials or position of power, even with the stigma of being illegitimate.   He lived a life as a homeless man and accepted the pain and shame of the Cross so that still unworthy we can become Sons (No gender here) of God and joint heirs with Christ, which allows us to participate in His divine nature.  11 Peter 1:4

Jesus, the Man died on a cross, buried three days and nights officially dead in Israel.  If He didn’t die his resurrection was a farce for we really do die.

We are born Mortal "subject to death having a transitory life" Jesus was a mortal from His conception and God's great miracle is that a mortal man became immortal. By His resurrection Jesus conquered death, not only for himself but for us also who believe.
"Being made in the likeness of men.  Being found in appearance as a man, He humbled Himself by becoming obedient to the point of death, even death on a cross.  For this reason, God highly exalted Him, and bestowed on Him the name above every name, so that at the name of Jesus Every Knee Will Bow, of those who are in heaven and on earth and under the earth, that every tongue will confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father."   (Phil 2:7-11)
" If there is no resurrection of the dead, not even Christ has been raised; if Christ has not been raised, then our preaching is vain, your faith also is vain if Christ has not been raised, our faith is worthless; you are still in your sins.  Then those who have fallen asleep in Christ have perished.  If we have hoped in Christ in this life only, we are of all men most to be pitied"       "Since by a man came death, by a man also came the resurrection of the dead.  As in Adam all die, so in Christ all will be made alive.   (1 Cor 15:11-23) God didn't die; the divine Christ, or Logos can't die.  Jesus death and ours is separation from God; the horror of Jesus becoming sin for us on the cross is that God left Him to experience our death for us.   Robert Greenwald  Feb. 3, 2014    Eternal Father is in Isaiah 6:9 and is in reference to the Child so how does the child become the eternal father  "Christ -For in Him dwells all the fullness of the Godhead bodily;"    Col 2:9-10

Robert Greenwald
smileygrn@hawaii.rr.com

God's Fail-Safe System
From October 3, 2013 6:37:55 PM HST

Definition of FAIL-SAFE. 1:" incorporating some feature for automatically counteracting the effect of an anticipated possible source of failure."  
" let him who thinks he stands take heed lest he fall."    Pride blinds our eyes to our sin and we think that we are the only one is the world with this unique failing.   Sin is common to all men even Jesus was tempted as we are yet He never fell.  Because my pride has nothing to do with your sin I can easily detect sin in others
13 "No temptation has overtaken you but such as is common to man; and God is faithful, who will not allow you to be tempted beyond what you are able, but with the temptation will provide the way of escape also, so that you will be able to endure it."  (1 Cor 10:12-13)

The church has always been plagued with ethical and moral failures especially  the clergy because they elevate themselves above their brethren. God has designed a fail safe system in scripture.  Every human is capable of failure, or" falling  short of the goal so as to lose the prize."
 This is the message we have heard from Him and announce to you, that God is Light, and in Him there is no darkness at all.  If we claim that we have fellowship--(koinonia) with Him and walk in the darkness, we are both telling and living a lie  but if we walk in the Light as He Himself is in the Light, we have fellowship with one another, and the blood of Jesus His Son continuously cleanses us from any and every sin.  If we say that we have no sin, we are deceiving ourselves and the truth is not in us. If we confess our sins, He is faithful and righteous to forgive us our sins and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness. (1 John 1:5-2:1) 
When we are in a transparent (koinonia) fellowship Christ's blood (the Holy Spirit) flows through us constantly cleansing us.  If we cut ourselves off (anger fear resentment) from intimate spiritual fellowship with the body of Christ His blood no longer flows and the cleansing stops
The key is Koinonia translated as  "1. fellowship    2. communion,  3. participation  4. sharing"

Paul's warns about the Lords supper "He eats and drinks judgment to himself if he does not judge the Body (of Christ) rightly. this is why many of you are weak and sick, and a number have died."(1 Cor. 11:29-30)  When individuals or fellowships, do not (judge) comprehend or understand the purpose of the Body of Christ they become weak, sickly and many fellowships die.

The Body of Christ consists of roughly a dozen families in an intimate functioning fellowship committed to Christ and each other. In the body all are on equal footing there are no superiors for all are peers.  With a hierarchy a mere mortal calls the shots and Christ is disposed as head. Without total trust transparency is lost, without total transparency trust is lost.
"Confess your sins to one another, and pray for one another so that you may be healed."   (James 5:15)
Confess your sins to those you can't trust there is a good chance you will find a knife in your back.

 "Reprove, rebuke, exhort, with great patience and instruction".   (2 Tim 4:2-3)
Robert S Greenwald  Oct.3, 2013 

WHERE ARE YOU GOING, DUKE?

Where are we going? Where are we from? Men are blind as they look to the sun.
To guide them on their way but time proves it does not pay,                                            To wander endlessly, without hope, without love, without peace from above.

The sun gives light to the shadowy deeds of murders, who kill for their needs,
Of lust, hate, power, and bait the unknowing intellectual-
Into fulfilling his role of digging himself a bottomless hole.

Men seek as their way out, evolution as their solution. Is this what life is all about?
I want what they want, but I disagree as to their way of destruction, despair and pulling of hair. Because as long as man fights man, there will never be any hope of inward reality.

Look, search, dig all you want. Check Hegel, Dewey, Sartre or Kant.
Sift through the annuals of time on time and see if man's purported solution compares to mine,
Which is to look up, down, left, and right and find nowhere in sight
A human answer to a human problem. BUT--

There is a place where men have failed to look, and it's not in a paper paged book.
But in the life of one man who had a plan for man to live and love
As now He seeks, but found not in the bleak sight of a revolution; is His solution.
It all starts with, yes, a revolution, only in man's heart.

The world didn't understand and doesn't today, they call His death a defeat but little do they,
Know of what they speak, because He is alive today bringing to many love, peace, hope and liberty.         
So my goal is the same as yours, but I don't have to beat down the doors.

I simply ask, what is more important, your ego in spite of your very dear life?
You can't have both and exist very happily because they don't function well in reality.
Also you can't have both for they are incompatible.
To choose the lesser makes the others insurmountable.

Life then comes to this -- you have a choice to make
Living a life worth living or a death you'll hate.

Bill Lee-Warner 1960 Oregon State